Julian Gresser, MA, JD, has been an adviser to many companies and governments and has had an international law practice in Tokyo, Japan. He is also a practitioner of Zen Buddhism and qigong. He is the author of Environmental Law in Japan (1971), Partners in Prosperity: Strategic Industries for the U.S. and Japan (1985) Piloting Through Chaos (1995), Explorer's Mind (2013), Laughing Heart: A Field Guide to Exuberant Vitality for All Ages (2017), and Integral Resilience (2019). He is currently chairman of Alliances for Discovery and Big Heart Technologies. His websites, relevant to this interview are https://resiliencemultiplier.com/5g-collaborative-dojo/ and https://resiliencemultiplier.com/meeting-the-5g-network-challenge-ringside-seat-podcast-series-4-a-new-paradigm-of-collaborative-learning-the-5g-dojo-with-julian-gresser/.